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From Attraction Marketing to E-Commerce: The Amazon Seller's Journey to Success with Ann Sieg

February 20, 2023 Emmy Cornwell, Ann Seig Season 3 Episode 102
From Attraction Marketing to E-Commerce: The Amazon Seller's Journey to Success with Ann Sieg
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From Attraction Marketing to E-Commerce: The Amazon Seller's Journey to Success with Ann Sieg
Feb 20, 2023 Season 3 Episode 102
Emmy Cornwell, Ann Seig

Ann Sieg, the godmother of attraction marketing, shares how she transitioned her business from attraction marketing to e-commerce. In addition to growing her business outside of the company, she began to teach others how to succeed online. With over 400K subscribers, she decided to take her business in a new direction: e-commerce.

Her leads helped Ann build a big MLM really fast, but she also wanted to help people with smaller followings. Having already established a sales funnel and customers, she focused on positioning the right products on Amazon.  As far as getting customers is concerned, Amazon has already done the work and advertising. She worked with over 9,000 students and has built the E-Commerece Business school which is now helping other entrepreneurs be successful as an Amazon Seller. 

Many people attempt to sell on Amazon without knowing how to succeed. Many people fail at selling on Amazon because they don't realize there are scalable methods that begin with the easiest and increase in difficulty. Inadvertently, they dive into outsourcing, private label and shopify. 

“Just like in school, there is a progression and you don't start 'em from scratch, in the deep end of the pool, they're most likely to drone. Putting them in a position where they can have the greatest amount of success and cash flow in sales is key”. Ann Seig

There were two areas in which people struggled with e-commerce. Finding the right mentorship and when to outsource. Her E-Commerence Business School filled this gap. Today she shares with us the best ways to get started selling on Amazon, the most common pitfalls, and how to avoid them.

ABOUT ANN:
Making money from home should never come in the way of raising a family. As the top producer in an online sales company, Ann didn’t want to become the busy mom that her kids never got time with so she started her own online business from home. In less than 4 months of setting up her online business, she went from $2,000 to
$90,000 a month in sales. She then sold 4.2 million dollars with her first-ever ebook and built a subscriber list of over 400,000 people worldwide.

Connect with Ann Sieg:
Website
Instagram @ecommercebusinessschool

Profit Projection Calculator: https://www.joinebs.com/calculator


Connect with Emmy on the GRAM  @theheyheyemmy or hang out on Facebook.

As always, this episode is brought to you by my favorite Liquid Collagen. Check out my fave duo to help you tone, tighten and feel good from the inside out. CLICK HERE Use code “3324349” at checkout to get $10 OFF your first order

Grab my Exclusive FREE Two-Part Training-
How to Build a Successful Personal Brand from Scratch.  This is a must if you want to make money online by creating a brand that attracts your ideal clients.  GRAB THE TRAINING HERE


Want to grow your following, generate more leads, and CASH on INSTAGRAM? Grab a FREE COPY of the CA$H MONEY IN YOUR INSTAGRAM STORIES GUIDE


Connect with Emmy on the GRAM @theheyheyemmy or hang out on Facebook.

Show Notes Transcript

Ann Sieg, the godmother of attraction marketing, shares how she transitioned her business from attraction marketing to e-commerce. In addition to growing her business outside of the company, she began to teach others how to succeed online. With over 400K subscribers, she decided to take her business in a new direction: e-commerce.

Her leads helped Ann build a big MLM really fast, but she also wanted to help people with smaller followings. Having already established a sales funnel and customers, she focused on positioning the right products on Amazon.  As far as getting customers is concerned, Amazon has already done the work and advertising. She worked with over 9,000 students and has built the E-Commerece Business school which is now helping other entrepreneurs be successful as an Amazon Seller. 

Many people attempt to sell on Amazon without knowing how to succeed. Many people fail at selling on Amazon because they don't realize there are scalable methods that begin with the easiest and increase in difficulty. Inadvertently, they dive into outsourcing, private label and shopify. 

“Just like in school, there is a progression and you don't start 'em from scratch, in the deep end of the pool, they're most likely to drone. Putting them in a position where they can have the greatest amount of success and cash flow in sales is key”. Ann Seig

There were two areas in which people struggled with e-commerce. Finding the right mentorship and when to outsource. Her E-Commerence Business School filled this gap. Today she shares with us the best ways to get started selling on Amazon, the most common pitfalls, and how to avoid them.

ABOUT ANN:
Making money from home should never come in the way of raising a family. As the top producer in an online sales company, Ann didn’t want to become the busy mom that her kids never got time with so she started her own online business from home. In less than 4 months of setting up her online business, she went from $2,000 to
$90,000 a month in sales. She then sold 4.2 million dollars with her first-ever ebook and built a subscriber list of over 400,000 people worldwide.

Connect with Ann Sieg:
Website
Instagram @ecommercebusinessschool

Profit Projection Calculator: https://www.joinebs.com/calculator


Connect with Emmy on the GRAM  @theheyheyemmy or hang out on Facebook.

As always, this episode is brought to you by my favorite Liquid Collagen. Check out my fave duo to help you tone, tighten and feel good from the inside out. CLICK HERE Use code “3324349” at checkout to get $10 OFF your first order

Grab my Exclusive FREE Two-Part Training-
How to Build a Successful Personal Brand from Scratch.  This is a must if you want to make money online by creating a brand that attracts your ideal clients.  GRAB THE TRAINING HERE


Want to grow your following, generate more leads, and CASH on INSTAGRAM? Grab a FREE COPY of the CA$H MONEY IN YOUR INSTAGRAM STORIES GUIDE


Connect with Emmy on the GRAM @theheyheyemmy or hang out on Facebook.

Anne Sieg is a entrepreneur, online serial entrepreneur, and Amazon power seller. Making money from home should never come in the way of raising a family. Can I get Amen. My type of gal and as the top producer in an online sales company and didn't want to become that busy mom that her kids never got to see, never got time with.

So she started her own online business from home. Maybe you can relate to some of her. In less than four months of setting up her online business, she went from $2,000 to 90,000 a month in sales. She then sold 4.2 million with her first ever ebook and built a subscriber list of over 400,000 people worldwide.

Ann has since helped tens of thousands of students achieve financial freedom so they can spend more time doing what they love most. Her mission is to help strengthen the family economy so they can quit their. Pay off debt, assist family members and achieve the lifestyle of travel and adventure and whatever it is that you desire.

She is doing that with her students through her e-commerce business school. We had such a great interview on this podcast episode. You are gonna love hearing from Ann. We talk about affiliate marketing, we talk about attraction marketing. She has tons of knowledge, tons of wisdom. Years and years of experience from direct sales into the e-commerce space.

We talk about lots of marketing, also how to build a community and grow. Your leadership. I am so excited for you to listen in to the interview that I had with Anne. Alright, let's hop into it.

Hey. Hey. It's your girl, Emmy Cornwell, Instagram biz coach and social selling expert. Welcome to the Hey, hey, Emmy Show. This is a podcast where we talk about all things that will be helpful for you and your business. Everything from Instagram tips and tricks to health hacks to relationships, and definitely some Jesus.

Basically everything in between Proverbs 31. And Tupac. I am so excited to party with you in each and every episode because ain't no party like a Hey, hey Emmy party. Can I get Amen. All right, let's get into it, sister.

Hey. Hey. What's going on? How are you, sister? Girl. Welcome back to the Hey, hey, Emmy Show podcast, all things. Proverbs 31 to Tupac. I am so excited to bring you a very, very special. It's been a little bit since we've had some interviews on the podcast, and I know that's one of your favorite ways to figure out what's going on in your business to get the latest, the greatest, especially things around personal branding sales, Instagram, of course, other social media platforms.

But one of my favorite things, and this is what we're gonna talk about today, is marketing and actually also community building because you can be a really good market. But if there are not other systems set in place for you to nurture those relationships that you're marketing to, I'm sorry to say, it's probably not going to be helpful when it comes to cashing in and increasing your bank account.

So today's guest is Anne Sieg. She has 18 plus years of marketing experience in multiple different areas. And I'm gonna, I'm not gonna steal her thunder. I'm gonna have her share with me a little bit more and share with. Who she is and what she's all about because you are not gonna want to miss this episode.

So Anne, thank you so much for being here. Thank you. I'm excited to be here in Proverbs 31. How many times have I read that? I just read it this weekend and it's so, I'm glad you mentioned that. That's so cool. Yeah, and that's Anne and I, just to kind of give you guys as you're listening, wherever you're listening to, on the treadmill, in the kitchen, folding laundry for your kids on the way to work, wherever you're listening to, Anne and I actually have never met until today.

And that is one of my most favorite things to do on this episode is, or on these podcasts, is to meet new people that are going to selfishly I wanna get to know and I want to know more about them and their story and what they do in their zone of genius. But I know it's gonna be helpful for you.

And we did not even talk anything about faith necessarily before, just briefly before we hit record. And so I knew that this was gonna be a good episode, and that is just confirmation. So I'm so glad that you're here. Love it. Maybe share with the listeners. I always like to say give us your like non boring elevator pitch.

Who's Anne? What do you do and how do you help people? I help strengthen the family economy through a training and mentorship community to help the family self-actualize into what they wanna be able to do with their families. Gosh. I mean, Mike dropped right there. . One of the things that we do talk about on this podcast rather, is when good ma, when good people make good money, they have the ability to do great things.

And I am a hundred percent an advocate for women being able to make financial strides in their families, just like you said. So they can ultimately do what they wanna do. Yeah. That's, wow. I love it. See, I told you I knew I had a good feeling. This is so good. Maybe share with us a little bit more about your experience.

18 plus years, you have a lot of experience, a lot of wealth in this industry, in this field marketing I'm sure has changed over the years. So maybe share with this more about your e-commerce business school. Mm-hmm.  and what you're doing now and how you got. Well, how I got there was I was trying to solve a business problem, so I was in direct sales with a company that at that time, my eldest son, who was 18 at the time, had sponsored me into thank.

Mary Kay Tupperware. Okay. Direct sales, which I had done for a good majority of the time when I was raising our sons. And there was no internet, there was no social media. You did these home party presentations. So I did Mary Kay Christmas around the world, et cetera. Anyways, so then it was Houston and we had different businesses over that season too.

We did real estate investment and my husband had a windshield replacement business. So we're very Resourceful to have businesses. And then I also homeschooled, and this goes back a bit, my youngest is 32 and my eldest is 38. And so I homeschooled for 12 years. And so our home was the hub of economic enterprise as well as in-home education, but yet very.

Broad scope, piano lessons and art and this and that. And so I adhere to the education philosophy, that education is the lighting of the lighting of lighting of a fire, not the filling of a bucket. I think that's why William Yates, and that's really what I seek to do. And that's I was raised by educators.

And so the same is true now in all the community work that I've done and training, which I was a sports coach also in the offline world 15 years. And I just like creating leaders and I like having community and create connectedness. So it's, my mom was that way. , she was constantly forming this and that.

And oh, she's got a cooking class at the Y, she's got three poetry clubs and she started the four H club. And so it was natural for me to fall in my mother's footsteps. So I'm a natural organizer. But so the reason I found my way online is when my son had sponsored me and I'm going out doing the deal, traditional m mlm, trying to recruit, recruit, recruit, recruit.

And he said, mom, you really gotta go. So I went online and I don't know what I typed in, but I came across two different programs and I knew my gap was attributed to, I, I needed more knowledge. I need, something was missing and I was now a seeker and I was gonna find it. So the one call is very hype filled.

I'm like, Ugh, I don't need hype. I'm not into hype, I just, I'm, I understand that to reach success, I need knowledge. I need experience that I don't have, that I can learn from someone else. You know? Like my expectations were reasonable, just I need to find it. And so then the one gentleman that I liked, it was more education based.

As I ended up joining this program, and now that was coming up, it'll be 19 years ago, is when I came online. We still work together. We still work together after, that'll be 19 years. So that's a long time. And so then I started to study sales, but also marketing under this mentor that I had at the time back in 19.

Oh my goodness. No, 2004. Sorry. It doesn't go bad. Yeah. 2004 it feels like forever ago. But it's only in the two thousands. Yes. Wow. So the two thousands. And so, um, so then he was building his own side journey of also learning online marketing. And then we ended up partnering together. And our very first ebook, we did over 4 million in sales with the ebook, and we had over 70,000 affiliate.

With that program that got this free backend as part of that came with the book and it was just a killer sales funnel. We didn't really know the whole big backend piece. We had a backend, but it wasn't highly mon monetized at that time. But anyways, but that was teaching network marketers how to do online lead generation.

And so I was like a pioneer in that industry and they called me the godmother of attraction marketing and that, that lasted about nine years. And now speaking of emails so we had built a list of about 400,000 subscribers in about our first two years online together, and then came this infamous Google Slap.

And so they blocked us out and we literally lived off of that list of about 400,000 people for about eight years. Feeding a team of about eight to nine people all through marketing through that email list and doing different offers. We had our own, we had our own training company where we taught attraction marketing, but we were doing affiliate promos left and right, just and so we monetized that list.

Thankfully it built up as quickly as it did. But that li list is all ancient history now. And then when we pivoted into e-commerce, now it's nine years ago, then it was building a new list, cuz the other one was marketing to network marketers. Whereas e-commerce, It's, if you wanna call it the bis op space, but we're really trying not to position ourself in that way.

It's really about becoming an e-commerce professional. But then we developed the e-commerce business school after we made that pivot out of attraction marketing and into e-commerce. And primarily because it's just so much easier and faster for people to, if they do it the right way in approaching e-commerce to Amazon specifically.

Wow. That was a lot of really great stuff and I heard some, some of the things that I was curious about myself, you know, really how has marketing changed in the 18 years that you've been in the industry and mm-hmm. , I think we're hearing a lot about attraction marketing right now as network marketing, cuz that is one of my streams of income is I am currently.

Indirect sales. It's not my main source. Mm-hmm. , I'm an online business coach and a personal branding specialist. Mm-hmm. , that's my full-time job. Yeah. But it's so interesting because you were pioneering something mm-hmm.  so many years ago. Yeah. That, that really the network marketing space didn't grab a hold of until, and I don't even, I think there are still some companies Oh yeah.

That I would say are very archaic. Yes. Have not grabbed a. Of the attraction marketing, especially when it comes to the digital space. So that is so cool to hear that is how you started some of the top business coaches and top leaders in sales and marketing. I don't know if they ever mentioned their background, but a lot of them start Oh yeah, sales.

That's right. It's a great place to start. Yeah, the barrier's so low. Mm-hmm. , and you do really if you're like Anne and I, which is, I'm getting to know we have more in common. Both my parents were educators as well. Oh yeah. My mom was an elementary school principal for 35 years. My dad was all the way from elementary to secondary and was a coach as well.

Wow. Yeah. I coached soccer at Cal State San. Oh. So I think those are things that we grew up with, our personal experiences that have led us to both be lifelong learners. Yes, yes. And problem solvers. Mm-hmm. , which are two skill sets you can learn and you should learn if you wanna be successful in your business, if you wanna be successful.

Yeah. In e-commerce, in the digital space, in attraction marketing, whatever industry you're in, if you're a real estate listening to this, if you're a loan officer listening to this, if you are a small business with a brick and mortar a studio, whatever your business is, you're gonna have to market.

You're gonna have to figure out these strategies. Yeah, that Anne has a lot of experience and wealth of knowledge in that I'm just enjoying. So hopefully you are listening to as well. Maybe you could share to a little bit of the difference between. E-commerce and at, because you said we had moved out of attraction marketing.

Mm-hmm. . Mm-hmm. . So maybe share the difference in what you see. Yeah. Yeah. Well, attraction marketing is on the premise that you position yourself attractively in your respective industry to then start generating leads. So that's what we taught. My two eBooks that we had, I was. We haven't had 'em out there, but it was the seventh grade lies in network marketing.

And then the second was the Renegade Network marketer, which we sold 4 million worth of that Igbo, the Renegade Network marketer. We've taught them about sales funnels, et cetera. The really big difference is In that case, you have to build the sales funnel. And building a successful sales funnel that converts is a pretty darn high level skillset, especially when you throw in paid advertising and make sure that ad spend has a PO positive row and it's just gotta all come together and.

I have built, I've built like hundreds of funnels over the years so that I've a lot, a lot of experience of building them and than we were teaching people. The difference with Amazon, because I had, was a different training program. When I rolled out, Hey, let's you know, Hey, inner Circle people and Inner Circle, let's check the check out.

This selling on Amazon, the results were so insanely fast that it's. Wow. For one, it was just so much more rewarding and the really big difference between if you wanna compare direct sales in the offline world, you have to go out and get the prospects. So, so I was, I had done that for decades doing direct sales.

Then I learned to master it online and we had an amazing funnel. I mean, I was able to build Big  MLMs really fast because of my leads, my list that followed me. The difference is Amazon has the sales funnel. They've done all the marketing, they've done all the advertising, they've got all the customers.

And so then from there, yes comes the rum. How do you do this and how do you do it successfully? A lot of people do try selling an Amazon and fail because they don't realize there are different scalable methods that start with the easiest and move on up in difficulty, but they're hit up on all these d.

Marketers, and they may have inadvertently jumped into the deepest end of the pool for which they have no business. For example, sourcing from China or private label or Shopify. And we've done those. We've done trips to China, have a son who lives there and we, we've done that. But they don't understand the global view.

It's like, who takes the time to do that? Not too many people, because they're gonna really shine a spotlight on their particular method. That sourcing method, that, that's the one right there. That's it. Well, we've top print on demand. We've taught wholesale privately, we taught 'em all. The reality is there is a progression just like you would have for someone going through school and you don't start 'em in.

The deep end of the pool, they're most likely to drone. You wanna put them in a place where they can have the greatest amount of success and cash flow in sales as quickly as possible. So that was born out of nine years, teaching and training, all things Amazon, possibly have a Shopify course and just stepping back and going, wow, we've trained 9,000 people.

Where are the pitfalls? Where let's study our, you know, we'd like to study our student body. Where can we create better success? And we brought it down to two things. One is that inevitably they don't know one is the appropriate time to start outsourcing. And so they're wearing too many hats and they get overwhelmed and they throw on the towel.

And then the other was the mentorship, which we. Had significant mentorship, but we create a proprietary mentoring system called the 90 Day Peak Performance Mentoring. And so we were able to address those two from what we could see were the biggest pitfalls. Not outsourcing soon enough, and then also getting out more direct mentoring.

I have several mentors that I've been here 18 years and right now I'm working with about three different mentors, four. You know, so I, and so I'm glad you mentioned about the mentor part. So for me, the mentorship to our members, well, if I've benefited from having mentors and I can't imagine not having a mentor because the, it's always a rapidly evolving space and things change and progress and there's new things to learn.

And if you want to go to a higher level, which is, I have a three year living vision for the company. I get to start to play the different game and I've gotta find a mentor who can help me play at that game. So yeah. That's so good. You're getting into sports analogies. You're right up my alley. I love it.

Yeah. All good coaches have coaches, all good people who are in the mentoringship space who are building leaders like the both of us are in different capacities. We are called to a higher level of leadership as well. I love to give the analogy that we're all on a mountain. We're on some type of mountain, now we're at a peak of some sort.

Mm-hmm. . But we're going from glory to glory. Our journey is never over until we're on, you know, the other side and we're in heaven. But your person who you're helping is further down the mountain and they're looking up at you now. They wanna get to where you're at, but you're not just staying there.

You are metaphorically reaching down and linking arms with them to help them take those. Right. So for instance, one of those steps for you would be how and when and why would you outsource. You're literally giving those step by step  in your school, in your courses of how to do that as the person who's the tour guide, you know, you're, you're moving up your hill too.

You're moving up your mountain, and so you cannot do this alone. We were not made to do this life.  business is can be lonely. Yes. Especially if you're self-employed. Especially if you're entrepreneurship. Especially if you're in the digital and online space. And so I love that's something that you provide your students and it really probably builds what one of the things that you're good at, and again, makes so much sense cuz you're, you've done athletics and education, is that community aspect.

Mm-hmm. . So maybe too, if you could share a little bit. The community that you're building in your school, but also what would be some, some suggestions or some of your best practices or best tips.  for building community and in someone's business who's listening today. Mm-hmm. , you know, in today's competitive environment, you could almost say, well, anyone can create a training course.

You know? Yeah. Russell Bronson came out with his software, ClickFunnels, and every, all of a sudden it's everybody's bees knees to create a course to sell and make money off of. Right. But having a community is an asset that goes far beyond any course because now you have people. Who want to be connected with you by what you provide them with.

And I am very strong proponent that life is a journey and you wanna link arms with other people on that same journey. So in our case, in our community, it's, they develop these wonderful friendships with, and we encourage it, we want that. And I had one group. This is when I had my previous training company before shifting to e-commerce.

But I, I did these oh, what did I call it? I did their review, a weekly review, and then there were these accountability groups. Well, the one group got so close, they literally. Would visit each other and then we're talking across the us, you know? Yeah, I'm heading out for a road trip and I'm gonna go visit Sharon and then I'm gonna stop at Rich's house and as peers within my mentorship.

So that to me, a leader sets. A platform that's conducive for healthy relations to form. And so we have in essence, so we use Facebook for our groups, but we're also considering school, um, with Sam Ovens as a way to, we're finding more and more people or fewer. It's not as a responsive thing to be on Facebook, I think because of the years of late intentions and whatnot.

And so they just wanna be in a place without as much noise. So we haven't made that shift yet, but we're looking to possibly do that soon. But, That's, so back when I was coaching gymnastics, that was my sport. So I would coach them into leaders in my own gymnasts became my coaches. Not always, but, and that's what we have internally.

So I always want to set a platform. In fact, I have a book right over there, it's called A Talent Code by Daniel Coyle, the Talent Code. And I've interviewed him the talent code and I'm like, I read that book and I. This is a book about me in my life, because no matter what I'm doing, I always wanna set up so that you can help cultivate leaders up, because we're kind of, I don't wanna say a leaderless society, but we sure are in need of some good leaders standard bearers.

And when you mentioned Proverbs 31, Joshua one is one of my absolute favorite Dutch chapter, Joshua one. But in any case, so it. That's what I'm called to do is help groom up leaders. And leaders are people who conduct themselves with grace and diplomacy and respect. And so within our group, we have very little drama and we have 3000 in one of our groups and.

They say, we've never experienced anything like this. Sand what's, cuz there's strong leadership behind it. So if you don't have strong leadership and you end up in some groups with this silly biting and brujas and you're just like, oh my goodness, this is, that's sandbox stuff. We don't, we're adults here, you know?

But, so I have a certification program for example, where if they reach certain criteria and they have to go through training, et cetera, to become a certified coach with us in our e-commerce business school. So it's gotta be results driven. They have to have our culture values, and I think that's what is gotta be really from the heart of the leader.

Your folks who are listening, who are leading in their own businesses is to really know your culture. Who are you, what is your essence? Because you're by default gonna attract very, like, kind, similar people who share those same culture values. And it's so odd. I have a YouTube my one ad and they'll watch and we get a new call.

You're Christian, aren't you? And I don't see anything about it. Nothing. And I'm like, yeah, as a matter of fact. And I was praying and I was like, yeah, and so was I . Yes. I love that. I love that. And that's similar to my style of evangelism, if you will. And how I operate is I really do believe that by our fruit is what people can tell from glean.

And I always like to say, I wanna. I wanna take people to church who would never step into church and do it in a way that is, they can re relate to the relationship piece. Yeah. Right. Of relationship. And so that's so cool. I love that. And I absolutely believe that is the number one best way to attract anything in whatever you're doing, is being yourself and who you are truly created to be.

And your true identity is going to shine through and everyone will the people who are divinely assigned to you will be. We'll, well, you'll have divine appointments and they will come into your, your influence. Your influence into your space, into your business, into your life. Speaking of different people, who would you say I'm, I would love to make more money.

Ann , who would love to do, you told, you just said you've trained, you know, X amount of people which is a large amount of people to help them increase their financial freedom for their families through. The e-commerce school that you're the CEO o of, and you mentioned Amazon, who's gonna be a good fit to be one of your students who, who potentially is wanting to increase their finances, especially as everything else is increasing inflation.

Mm-hmm.  things. Mm-hmm. . Well, they have to focus and from what I can tell from your audience, they have a desire for focus and to be results, you know, have re uh driven. Outcome that they wanna achieve for themselves. We have two different methods. We start everyone at arbitrage. An arbitrage just means to buy something low and sell high on Amazon, so you can do local retail arbitrage.

I have a gal who is doing single-handedly three quarters of a million dollars a year in sales on Amazon with this, that particular method. Now, that's not a real scalable method because it's, it's totally a linear, linear income, but she loves. As long as they're happy with it, you know? And because I said your husband doesn't help you either.

No, I do it all by myself, Anne. So she goes out to the store scans with her smartphone. You download the Amazon seller central app. And she is, she's probably doing around, I have to think 200 K out of that, at least so a really good. Very healthy six-figure income. So it's, it's a job you could say, but it is a business.

And then the next step up is online arbitrage. And that's where we teach the scale, where with the systems in place, which we have the standard operating procedures, we have the proven blueprint, then they can outsource the work of the finding of products and they hire a virtual assistant from overseas.

And one of our coaches, she now is a team of 12 virtual assistant. She's a homeschool mom, former PhD in she has a PhD in biochemistry, and now here she is, it's Amazon seller. And so she's got these 12 VAs, she's homeschooling her three kids. They're growing up in the business learning how to do an Amazon business.

And so her schooling, just like mine was, it was part, we do business in this family. This is our identity. So you're gonna learn. That's why two of my son's currently work in my business and it has been all three at one time. But anyways it's really getting people into a cash flow. And so the retail arbitrage is a very, very fast cash flow.

We have people, it's not uncommon to make $5,000 in sales their first 30 days. You just have to do the work. And if you want more of the scalable hands off, then you move into the online arbitrage method. So there's other methods that then increase in risk one and effort and skill levels. But you wanna start with easy, you know what's fast.

So I'll just say, I mean, I used to sell Yvonne. I used to sell Mary Kay and you'd have to knock on doors back. And do that. And here it is, just your seller on Amazon. Now that doesn't have the duplication of dial lines and all that kind of thing. But I will say of the people that I was teaching network marketing for many of them, they were like, I never wanted to be the bees knees awesome girl at whatever this lead gen method or they just weren't in, they just were trying to make money.

So with the Amazon opportunity, it's, here you go. You don't have to develop these killer. Sales skills and all that kind of stuff. And the leadership does come into play because if you're gonna have a team of VAs, they're there to serve you and help bring your business to where you want it to be. So that does take that leadership aspect that you would have that crosses over into network marketing for sure.

Yeah, absolutely. I, I believe I have an episode I've done previous. Talking about how to lead a team. Mm-hmm. , e even as a solopreneur or someone who owns their business, who would have contractors essentially, right? Mm-hmm. , that's what are, right. Yeah. So that is absolutely very important. Cause you're delegating, you're giving tasks, you're having to communicate all of these things that are important in leadership.

And I love that you talked about too, your, your children and I'm 37. I'll be 37 and a half. Pregnant, and I know that what I'm doing now, he is gonna be watching. And that we're, you've provided a different option, different route for your sons to successfully, you know, to be a part of this, this world.

And I'm excited to do that as well. I, whether, whatever he decides to do, you know, in, in our future children, having those options that I didn't have even, yeah. Getting. Okay, so I got my bachelor's in communication studies and a minor in business and econ in 2006. I'm as, I'm 39, so I'm as old as your old, you know, oldest.

Yeah, yeah. And then I got a master's in sport management in 2000. Oh. Which I would not have ever gone to get my master's if I would've known the economy was gonna do what it did. Mm-hmm. , I would've looked for.  a business, but as someone who didn't have entrepreneurship, as a role model. Right. My parents were educators.

It was Right. Go to school. Yeah. Get a master's degree, then you're gonna get a raise cuz you have a master's degree, then you're gonna have summers off. You know, my parents wanted me to be a teacher. Mm-hmm. . I tried to be an elementary school librarian for a couple years and that was fun. But ultimately the legacy that I feel like I want to leave my family and their future generations and generat.

Is going to require some really extensive increase in finances and abundance. And I, I knew that starting a business and multiple businesses and putting in the work and doing the things that Anne and I have talked about today, I knew that, that is going to get me to that goal. And I know that you are listening.

Those are things that you want as well. And. If you are curious about anything that Ann has talked to, of course we're gonna share with you exactly how you can stay connected with her. My interest is peaked, right? That's one of the reasons why I brought Ann on  but maybe share with us too, how can people stay connected with you?

What are ways, if they're interested in joining the school where can we just give us all the things and then of course you can swipe up and in the show notes there are gonna be. So that you can just, it's super easy for you to stay connected, but I would love for you to share with us what those are.

Yeah, our homepages, e-commerce business school.com. It's a really easy to find. And then there'll be the links to our, our Facebook group. We have a free group. I'll also give a link for our profit projection calculator because as people come into Amazon, they rightly wanna know. Well about how fast does this thing turn?

How much money do I need to put in? Similar to when you get into network marketing, you typically have to buy some products to, to start your business, and then they put you on an autopilot and there is no autopilot when it comes to Amazon as far as that part, but we call it feeding the beast. So whatever you, you've gotta be filling your store.

At Amazon in order to make money off of selling those products. And we provide that training, but e-commerce business school.com. I also have the profit projection calculator, which comes with about a 22 minute training video so you can understand how to use that tool and crunch the numbers for how quickly could you get to 5,000 a month in profit.

You know, this kind of a thing. And I, I'd ask my director of training, coaching, let's have that tool because people are trying to plan their future. And how to make the allocations to get that turn coming back into the profits, into their family household. So that, and if you google and see.com, it's gonna just redirect or write to my e-commerce as business school.com.

I'm not as heavy into attraction marketing as I used to be. It's more, I'm running this school. I love it. I like building my internal community. I should do more of the outward stuff. Podcast is my way. I love podcasts. They're fun. So that's how they can find me. Okay, awesome. I love that. Well, I look forward to continuing to connect with you and I'm just so thankful that you took the time out of your full schedule to connect with me, to connect with our audience and our listeners.

I know that this episode has, there is something. For someone that needed to hear what you shared today and what we talked about today. I don't know what it is, and sometimes that's what surprised me most. So here's what I want you to do. If you're listening, take a screenshot now. Anne, I didn't ask you this.

Are you on Instagram? Yes, we are on Instagram. E-commerce business school, and I am as well. I'm not as active as you are on Instagram, but yes, . Okay, so here's what I want you to do. If you're listening and you love this episode, I want you to take a screenshot of this and tag me. Of course, the, Hey, hey Emmy.

And then I want you to tag Ann at e-Commerce business school. Sure. Yeah, that'd be great. Hey guys, tell us what your one big takeaway was. Tell us what that one thing is that you needed to hear. Not only is do we wanna continue the conversation with you, but we wanna celebrate you and we wanna just know what is meaningful for you and your life and your business right now to help you take one step closer up that mountain to your goals of financial freedom and what that looks like for your family.

So Ann, it has been an honor. I am just so pleased that we were able to take this time. So thank you so. You're welcome It was meant to be, I would say. I would say as well. All right. Don't forget to connect with Anne. Swipe up so you can get those links and we will see you on the next episode.